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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:16 am

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Also, Lone, in the other section of Nicole's sheet, I mentioned an ability she may or may not gain. Would you consider it OP if she learns it in the RP, because she really needs to have some sort of trump card as a last resort.


Well, I did note that powers do evolve over time and use. So, maybe later in the RP when she has tons of practice then she'd develop it.

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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:21 am

Thanks! I'll be sure to limit it when she gains the power, though. It's going to be one of those abilities where she does a single blast that does a lot of devastating damage and then she might have to rest for a very long time.

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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:53 am

Ultra, there is something wrong with your sheet. Review the rules to find out what.

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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:58 am

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My own character is only 50-something lbs, but she looks relatively normal, save for the fact that she has wings. Of course, my excuse was that she had hollow bones.
Bones, on average, count for only for 15% of your body weight (usually between 14% - 20%). So your character is sixteen years old - let's say the average weight for a sixteen year old girl is 130 lbs. for instance. Assuming you have regular bones, your bone weight in total would be 19.5 lbs, and the rest of the body weighed 110 lbs. This is how much the girl would weigh on average without bones. Your girl is delicate and with little muscle, so she may weigh 110 lbs. Without bones, 90.5 lbs. But your girl has bones; hollow bones, so the bone weight would cut down to about 10 lbs. 110 - 9.5 = 101.5 lbs. For any pair of wings to carry her, a 100 pound animal, you would need a wing span of 27.15 ft. due to a certain formula in a weight to wing ratio: 3+1/3 in weight to 1+8/9 size. That's, what? Counting meat, feathers and bones, another twenty or so pounds? 121.5 lbs., with the wings being a fifth of your body weight.

SCIENCE.

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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:10 am

gasp! science! well he did say It didn't have be accurate, just make sense. I mean im not sure how my characters power would even work in real life.
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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:48 pm

In retrospect, 23 feet is looong, having the wings themselves having to weigh AT LEAST 50 lbs EACH, adding to the weigh total of 221.5 lbs. Those wings are really heavy, huge, and really inefficient, but regardless, you are going to need some strong pectoral and back muscles to use those heavy wings, adding at least another 20 lbs. Weight total: 241.5 lbs. which at that rate, you're better just ramming into them with all of your weight than flying away. The suspension of disbelief is required for growing wings and hollow bones - not to the physics in how they're able to use them, and how efficiently.

Wings, contrary to popular belief, are NOT super strong. The muscle fibers in wings can pack a lot more strength, yes, but there is actually very little muscle in them, and a hundred pound creature wouldn't be able to glide with six foot wings. The wings would catch the wind, but you're so heavy you would float down (assuming the wings are extended the entire duration; you're heavy and you're trying to catch the wind with your wings, which would exhaust the muscles very quickly and you will plummet to the ground like a rock). Birds weigh almost nothing; they have tiny bones, hollow bones, most of their muscle is in their feet, neck, and wings (which includes the muscles on the body used for flying and flying alone). A hawk's wings are at least twice as long as their body.

But say you cut your character's height down to at least half, preferably maybe 4'2" (you're a midget at that point), weighing at a whopping 80 lbs. Hollow bones makes it 68 lbs. So how about we skip the formula, and just give you some bulky six foot wings (a twelve foot wingspan), adding about... maybe fifteen pounds, possibly twenty. Not sure. Total weight of either 95 or 100 lbs.

This isn't mentioning the idea that you have to be moving at at least 20 MPH to get into the air. Jump off a building and stretch your wings.

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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:07 pm

Also Birds have a highly developed set of lungs that allow them to have a constant source of oxygen, Weather breathing in or out. Plus Leio didn't even get into the energy requirments need for flight in the first place. Even at 50 lbs you'd need a lot of energy to sustian flight.
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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:22 pm

Lungs are a given and there is no drastic weight change (which was the topic I was going over) to make a notable difference in flying. To maintain one's flying ability, like how I assume Nicole would be doing, you should be exercising those muscles regularly, and with exercise brings more energy. It's not even worth bringing up those topics, and it's especially irrelevant when the topic is about weight.

Also, what happened to what you said, earlier?
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gasp! science! well he did say It didn't have be accurate, just make sense. I mean im not sure how my characters power would even work in real life.
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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:09 pm

I changed my mind.
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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:04 pm

I'm not done yet. After I ate dinner, I went to sleep and forgot to finish this.

Anyway, I wanted to do favorite color because of the reason why he likes them. It tells you about him as a person. If you really don't want me to put a favorite color, I can remove it.


Edit: My sheet is now complete.
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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:54 pm

It's not that I don't want you putting it in, it's the sign that tells me that you read the rules. Which as far as I can tell; you didn't.

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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:13 pm

I finally refined the idea for my second character. Be prepared for a little spider that's scary-looking, but sweet and gentle.

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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:58 pm

Oh god, one of those... pardon my tone - it's just... eugh. Colossusepic01.

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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:23 pm

im thinking a second character as well. something way different than Cye. not sure yet exactly what kind, but something.
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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:58 pm

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It's not that I don't want you putting it in, it's the sign that tells me that you read the rules. Which as far as I can tell; you didn't.

I did, it's just that I wanted to put that in. I'll take it out.

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Basic Information

Name: John Doe (seriously)
Nicknames:
Gender: Male
Age: 17
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 135



Appearance

Hair Color: Dark Brown

Eye Color: Blue

Nationality: He doesn't really know so American (white).

Physical Appearance: John is your average looking guy. There is nothing really that sets him apart. He is slightly taller than normal but there is nothing else that stands out. He has shaggy hair that is starting to grow over his eyes (he views this as a nuisance but constantly forgets to get his hair cut).

Attire: John wears a black t shirt with a gray hoodie. He likes to wear cargo pants because of the pockets (you never know when you might need a pocket). The only thing that sets him apart attire wise is a colorful bead necklace. It was made by his younger sister before she was adopted by another family and since it was obviously made for a smaller neck, he wears it as a wristband.


Personality

Innate Personality: His innate personality switches between a more pessimistic version of his outward personality and an outgoing, philosophical person. He is also fond of puns and cultural references when he is in his friendly mood.

Outward Personality: His outward personality is very cold and formal. He is also a bit of a deadpan snarker. This usually pushes people away. This is because he is somewhat shy and nervous with social contact (not that he would admit it). Ironically, he desperately wants friends and to be part of the social system he holds in disdain.

Hobbies/Skills: His hobbies are drawing, watching movies (this extends to video game walk throughs), reading, writing, making rants and monologues in his head, and listening to orchestral music.

History/Bio: John was born and grew up in New York City. By the time he was eight he had a one year old sister. He had a happy life until the day his family came back from a vacation. John doesn't remember much of what happens next, but in the end, his entire family, save for his sister were dead. Since they had no relatives to go to, they were put in an orphanage. The trauma made John withdraw for months. It also served as the stressor that activated his power. When he finally got over what happened, he discovered that other people never seemed to notice him. The only person who seemed to acknowledge him was his sister. As they got older, him and his sister became close. When he was twelve a couple came to adopt his sister. John and his sister wanted to be adopted together, but it appeared as if they never even noticed him. In the end, John's sister was adopted and he was more alone than ever. This led to him discovering his power. In a fit of rage, he punched the wall in his room, but didn't seem to be hurt by it. He experimented some more and finally unlocked the ability to make himself slightly opaque and his skin hard enough to get hurt from stuff that would normally hurt it. Thinking that this was why he was ignored, he made sure everything was turned off and went off to make friends. It didn't go well (mostly because he didn't turn off the passive ability, the real culprit). Disappointed, he finally decided to become the antisocial person he is today. A few weeks after his seventeenth birthday, he got a letter from Sparrowdale Academy and decided to go. As usual no one objected or cared for that matter and he was on his way. He is hoping that this will be different than the orphanage.


Abilities

Power: His ability is to change the property of his skin. He can either make himself transparent or bullet proof. So far, he can make himself somewhat opague (which is great for hiding in shadows) and make his skin somewhat stronger. Not strong enough to stop bullets, but enough to make hits hurt a little less and his own punches, kicks, etc. to hurt a little more. He has a passive ability that is linked to his ability to become invisible. Basically, it creates a weak SEP field (http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Somebody_Else's_Problem_field). This is one of the reasons why he has a non-existent social life. It is also is a big energy drainer which is why he is so skinny. At the moment, he does not even know it is activated.

Weaknesses: These powers are a big power drain and excessive use can have adverse side effects on his body This includes nausea, vomiting, sweating, headaches, fainting, coma, and/or death. It also relies on his body fat, ATP, etc. for its source of energy so overuse can lead to an extreme loss in body weight that can be confused for anorexia.

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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Wed May 01, 2013 2:29 am

you could've tuck it in the other section
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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Wed May 01, 2013 2:30 am

Um... why'd you post it three times? I'm only going to link it to one.

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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Wed May 01, 2013 3:35 am

who knows. but too late. oh well. now im gonna put up another character tommarrow if its okay with you. kay?
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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Wed May 01, 2013 3:40 am

Yes. Make plenty of characters now because it'll be hard to introduce new ones.

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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Wed May 01, 2013 3:47 am

cool. i m thinking along the lines of a mutation involving light somehow for this one. or maybe sound. I got a few rough ideas. heck I might make two characters and do both. oh idea! a brother sister combo with thou two powers! and this Is a fine example of stream of conscience writing.

you like that idea? of court id make separate sheets for the both of them.
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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Wed May 01, 2013 3:58 am

Do it

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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Wed May 01, 2013 8:12 am

(Shakes head at ultra) Not. Good. Enough. …Yea, this is gonna get confusing with 2 ultras. I'll make my sheet in a sec.

EDIT: Here it is. I might make the personality or the bio longer later on, but probably not.


Basic Information

Name: Jacob Malay
Nicknames: Jay, and Maz by his friends
Gender: Male
Age: 17
Height: 1.7m
Weight: 68kg



Appearance

Hair Color: It was actually blonde, but it's been dyed black since he was 8.
Eye Color: They were green until he became a Meta-Human at the age of 12. Then they became black. He wears green contacts over his eyes now though.
Nationality: Australian
Physical Appearance: For a 17 year old, Jacob is very small with a height of 1.70m. He is also quite skinny, but that doesn't make him weak and frail. He just doesn't have a lot of muscle, that's all. He used to have blonde hair that he spiked up, but he wanted to change the way he looked, so he dyed it black and let it flop down on his head normally. He used to be quite fat too, and he let himself get thinner to change the way he looked also. For the past couple of years Jacob has been wearing hoodies that hide his face, so most people don't really see what he looks like properly.
Attire: He nearly always wears either a black or dark green/brown hoodie over a multitude of different shirts. All of his pants are wide blue jeans and he has some red and black sneakers.
Personality

Innate & Outward Personality: (have I ever said how much I hate writing personalities?) In his head, Jacob actually has a lot to say. He just never says what comes to mind. Over the years he has became the guy that never talks. He's not shy or anything, just quiet. And slightly secretive too. He prefers to be hidden away to the side instead of out in the middle of the crowd, if you know what I mean. Not noticed, but still there. You get the picture.
Hobbies/Skills: Jacob loves the night. Whenever it gets dark, he goes around the city in his shadow form (see power). With all of the lights shining and all of the people around, nobody ever notices the lone shadow running around on it's own.
History/Bio: (This is a short bio because not very much has happened in Jay's life) As a kid, Jacob grew up like most other kids. He lived with his mother and father and was an only child. At primary school he was as similar as the next guy. Everything was normal. When he went to secondary school though, Jay became slightly unpopular, a group of boys bullied him, and Jacob wished he could just slip into the shadows. When he became a Meta-Human, he did just that. The bullies couldn't seem to find him as often, and neither could anyone else. Everyone noticed that he had became a more secretive and hidden person.
Favorite color:


Abilities

Power: Jacob's power is that he can make his body disappear and become his shadow. While he may not be able to touch them, he can interact with object's and people's shadow, making the object or person's actual self move. It also means that he can move around without being heard or seen (most of the time) and he can also scale walls with ease. Really he can do anything that your shadow can do.

Weaknesses: Although he's a shadow, he's not invincible. Shadows can interact with him, so even though he can punch your shadow, yours can punch him. Also stuff like water or spikes still affect him, as long as they have a shadow. Fire doesn't affect him though, because it MAKES shadows. Another weakness is that when a cluster of things are together, it's hard to pick out their shadow, so usually if there was a bunch of pencils together, he wouldn't end up picking up the pencil that he intended.

Other: Later during the RP I might give him the power to either control his own shadow as well as his body at the same time, give him the power to transform his shadow into anything or give him the power to possess other shadows. I'll decide later on.
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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Wed May 01, 2013 1:30 pm

From here on out a shall call ultra-ultra and UltraCRAZY1-Crazy

Aslo working on those sheets. I'll try to have them up sometime today.
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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Wed May 01, 2013 2:15 pm

Then maybe we could start the IC, but that's not up to me.
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PostSubject: Re: The Othergrounds - Trimmed   Wed May 01, 2013 2:26 pm

We'll start IC by I'd say... Friday or Saturday. I'm waiting for Lieo to get his sheet in, then the sheets that Put's going to make.



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